Hydraulic winch....?

Projects and discussions on ‘how to’ and your Discovery 3 and 4
User avatar
Bodsy
Chairman
Posts: 12224
Joined: Mon Feb 15, 2010 1:37 pm
Winner: Technical Post 2012, 2013
Comedian of the Year 2014
Car Details: 2007 HSE
Member Since: 15 Feb 2010
Location: Sunny Shropshire!

Hydraulic winch....?

Post by Bodsy » Sat Jul 09, 2011 11:15 pm

So.... Anyone know of a cheap source of a hydraulic winch?

Just thinking whether to go hydraulic or electric really. Electric is easy as there's plenty, but may look more into hydraulic for consistency and no heat build up issues.


Check http://tinyurl.com/brakebible
Here for How to change your Brake Pads, Disks, EPB Shoes Adjust, removal, cleaning & fitting Guide.

IID Pro Multivehicle. D3, D4, RRSport pre and post 2010, FFRR.
Gearbox Transmission Flushes and much more

Disco3Club Chairman

User avatar
Jason
Forum Contributor
Posts: 9250
Joined: Tue Sep 21, 2010 7:06 pm
Car Details: Defender 110 DC
Location: Sunny East Sussex & Kentucky & Alaska

Re: Hydraulic winch....?

Post by Jason » Sat Jul 09, 2011 11:21 pm

Chris Tyler was the 1st D3 to have one fitted, pics in his gallery, he'll point you in the right direction.


Defender 110 Double Cab 2010

SkyTag GPS Tracker & SkyTag LW52

SafeTPedal Security

Bluefin Remap Interface, +40bhp/102Nm

User avatar
Bodsy
Chairman
Posts: 12224
Joined: Mon Feb 15, 2010 1:37 pm
Winner: Technical Post 2012, 2013
Comedian of the Year 2014
Car Details: 2007 HSE
Member Since: 15 Feb 2010
Location: Sunny Shropshire!

Re: Hydraulic winch....?

Post by Bodsy » Sat Jul 09, 2011 11:48 pm

Yeah I've got loads of info from Chris in the past on the setup, just want to know if anyone has a cheap source. Mile marker seem to be well respected for hydraulic, but about a grand....


Check http://tinyurl.com/brakebible
Here for How to change your Brake Pads, Disks, EPB Shoes Adjust, removal, cleaning & fitting Guide.

IID Pro Multivehicle. D3, D4, RRSport pre and post 2010, FFRR.
Gearbox Transmission Flushes and much more

Disco3Club Chairman

User avatar
benp
Green Lane Rep
Posts: 10086
Joined: Wed Oct 06, 2010 10:31 pm
Winner: Benner of the year
Car Details: D3
Member Since: 0-10-2010
Location: the little city

Re: Hydraulic winch....?

Post by benp » Sat Jul 09, 2011 11:55 pm

YPFWYG...... well normally thats how it works but I bet some one will have one for £500 for you... not that I am bitter ;)

Ps sorry cant help too small


Benner of the year
club dog guard in-out-in-out-in-out-in-out-in-out-in-out-in-out-in-out-in-out-in-out-in-out....club the dog is dead but cant change the signature :(
club the D3 is alive!

User avatar
Non Stick Nick
Elected Club Member
Posts: 3178
Joined: Sun Feb 28, 2010 10:44 am
Car Details: N10KJN
Location: Caversham upon Thames
Contact:

Re: Hydraulic winch....?

Post by Non Stick Nick » Sun Jul 10, 2011 7:05 pm

Hi Bodsy,

If you were going to use a winch for prolonged use every day then I would explore a hydraulic option.
For occasional and leisure use I feel electric is the way to go.

Mile maker is the most common winch used in the 4x4 arena, but by no means the only brand.

A hydraulic instalation also has it's problems. How are you going to power the winch. The hydraulic pump can be powered from the transfer box in some LR vehicles. In others the power steering pump is used. If the standard PS pump is used winch performance can be a bit slow, to say the least. One can go for an uprated pump, but then there is increased cost.

I have also seen the pump run from a chain on the crank shaft pulley, a dedicated secondary pump just for the winch. This will depend on what engine you are running and what spare space there is on front of the unit.

So let us assme that you have sorted the pump and the plumbing and the electrical circuits to control the plumbing, your next problem could be heat. Heat can build up in the oil and you may need either an oil cooler or a custom resevoir with enough capacity to allow for oil to cool as it circulates.

With a hydraulic winch if your engine is not running, not is your winch.

Cheers
NSN
With an electric winch if your engine is not running you do have a small reserve of battery power to get you out of trouble.


Club...
i-butcher, editor in chief ( I look after the cuttings)
Sliding Floor
in car PC
Tin Tent
4x4 response HR 021

User avatar
PillowSmuggler
Committee Member
Posts: 7587
Joined: Wed Apr 07, 2010 8:17 am
Winner: Avatar of the Year 2012
Comedian of the Year 2013
Mechanic of the Year 2014
Clube Member of the Year 2014
Car Details: Disco3 TDV6 HSE 2007
Member Since: 29 Jun 2013
Location: http://goo.gl/maps/WGOsq

Re: Hydraulic winch....?

Post by PillowSmuggler » Sun Jul 10, 2011 7:44 pm

Ian,
My favoured approach if I ever see the funds available (currently fat chance is the current status of that) is a hydraulic winch. I've got my eye on the RED winches : http://www.firstfour.co.uk/p0/red-hydra ... 398016.htm" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

ISTR over on the other side that there was some-one in OZ that fabricated a bracket and ran a second PAS pump and fluid bottle close to the FBH side of the engine and therefore didn't mess with the existing steering set-up which is another preference of mine - remember direction of rotation is important as some pumps are CW and others are CCW if you go this way. I cant yet find the post but I think that they fitted a v-pulley either to the crank pulley or the fan pulley to drive the second pump.


Regards, Dom.
2007 HSE Auto TDV6
Snorkel, Cyclonic air filter, GNVP Rock Sliders
78Ah Aux, Split charge, FBH Timer/Remote, Mantec sump plate
LED: Strobes, interior, camping, brake, running, sides
New Oil Pump, using 2SO at 1:400.

User avatar
Bodsy
Chairman
Posts: 12224
Joined: Mon Feb 15, 2010 1:37 pm
Winner: Technical Post 2012, 2013
Comedian of the Year 2014
Car Details: 2007 HSE
Member Since: 15 Feb 2010
Location: Sunny Shropshire!

Re: Hydraulic winch....?

Post by Bodsy » Sun Jul 10, 2011 9:09 pm

Thanks for the info Nick :thumbright:

I think I'd still favour a hydraulic winch, but in reality I think I'll end up buying a supawinch goldfish from peterborough. Perhaps we'd have it fitted before the end of the weekend :lol:


Check http://tinyurl.com/brakebible
Here for How to change your Brake Pads, Disks, EPB Shoes Adjust, removal, cleaning & fitting Guide.

IID Pro Multivehicle. D3, D4, RRSport pre and post 2010, FFRR.
Gearbox Transmission Flushes and much more

Disco3Club Chairman

User avatar
brummiedeano
Elected Club Member
Posts: 1894
Joined: Tue Jul 27, 2010 6:04 pm
Location: West Midlands

Re: Hydraulic winch....?

Post by brummiedeano » Sun Jul 10, 2011 10:05 pm

Bodsy's winch fitting demo at Peterborough this time then :whistle:


Institute of Advanced Motorists - Car
ROSPA Advanced Drivers and Riders - Car
BTEC Level 3 Advanced Award in Driving
LANTRA 4x4 Off Road Driving Professional (CLVF01X)
MSUK Experienced Track Marshal
BORDA Higher Level Off Road Driving (CP9988)
First Aid At Work
SCL Security

User avatar
Bodsy
Chairman
Posts: 12224
Joined: Mon Feb 15, 2010 1:37 pm
Winner: Technical Post 2012, 2013
Comedian of the Year 2014
Car Details: 2007 HSE
Member Since: 15 Feb 2010
Location: Sunny Shropshire!

Re: Hydraulic winch....?

Post by Bodsy » Sun Jul 10, 2011 10:16 pm

Nah, i'm planning on actually enjoying this one!

Mind you, the tray should be fitted and just itching to get a winch connected. :whistle:


Check http://tinyurl.com/brakebible
Here for How to change your Brake Pads, Disks, EPB Shoes Adjust, removal, cleaning & fitting Guide.

IID Pro Multivehicle. D3, D4, RRSport pre and post 2010, FFRR.
Gearbox Transmission Flushes and much more

Disco3Club Chairman

User avatar
amondeggs
Elected Club Member
Posts: 490
Joined: Sat Apr 24, 2010 11:25 pm
Car Details: Defender 90

Re: Hydraulic winch....?

Post by amondeggs » Mon Aug 18, 2014 10:12 am

What happened to your other winch Ian :?:



Post Reply