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Re: Flashaholics - Great service

Post by PillowSmuggler » Tue Jan 06, 2015 9:38 am

I think mine are Ultrafire clones Muff, so they won't benefit from all the safety features you've described :shark:


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Post by DSL » Tue Jan 06, 2015 9:41 am

Would be good for wilderness use, great fire lighters. :lol:


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Re: Flashaholics - Great service

Post by PillowSmuggler » Tue Jan 06, 2015 9:45 am

Not so great if you get seen from the Space Station :lol: :lol:


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Re: Flashaholics - Great service

Post by Kingmav66 » Tue Jan 06, 2015 9:58 am

Great, cloning an already :poo: product :roll:
That's like the Chinese making a 2015 clone of the Austin Allegro :lol:



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Re: Flashaholics - Great service

Post by PillowSmuggler » Tue Jan 06, 2015 11:00 am

:lol: :lol: :thumbright: It'd sell though!


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Re: Flashaholics - Great service

Post by JF Lux » Tue Jan 06, 2015 11:42 am

Kingmav66 wrote:I'm sure it was a recommended purchase from .co.uk.
I would think that would be "Surefire" - they are a recognised and respected torch manufacturer. Their batteries will be rebranded but from a reputable source (eg Panasonic). Isn't "Ultrafire" the cheaper clone?
Kingmav66 wrote:I also rememember reading somewhere that you shouldn't leave them unattended in a charging or fully-discharged state, for risk of fire or explosion. :shock:
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Correct - unless you have a quality battery/charger/torch.

A quality charger will be protected - so will monitor voltage, charging rate/capacity and heat as it charges and will shut down if a problem.
Same for a torch. The one I have ordered has it's own monitoring circiut so the torch will shut down if the battery has a problem and to prevent over-discharge.
For the battery - there is "protected" and "unprotected". The former has a micro-circiut attached (which can make them a couple of mm longer) that monitors the performance, heat, discharge etc. and will shut the battery down. Unprotected is just that, but would be safe if used with equipment that is protected.

Personally, I have gone for a quality charger and protected battery...just to be safe. And because I will not have the patience to constantly check and monitor the battery charge each time I presee the "on" button of the torch...

I don't necessarily see a problem with "cheap Chinese copies" of some items - but would not go anywhere near cheap/copy for either rechargeable li-ion batteries or charger. Or a high-power torch that requires them, for that matter. For me, its like using cheapo tyres or brake pads.

And yes...I had a bit too much time on my hands over the last couple of days to do some reading... :oops: :lol:
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Post by anglefire » Tue Jan 06, 2015 1:18 pm

You must be back at work then John :lol:


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Re: Flashaholics - Great service

Post by PillowSmuggler » Tue Jan 06, 2015 3:49 pm

Mine is definitely ultrafire, which has a loverly fire logo.
The plus is at the wrong end, and the impressive spelling means I have total confidence that it is a protected cell :shark:
The charger thankfully monitors the battery and shuts down at full charge, and refuses to charge if the cell is under voltage, so that's comforting!
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Post by benp » Tue Jan 06, 2015 5:06 pm

there was a piccy somewhere of a tool bag that some one had lobbed half a dozen batterys inand they had gogone bang :lol:


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Re: Flashaholics - Great service

Post by JF Lux » Tue Jan 06, 2015 5:24 pm

Are you sure you want to keep that Ultrafire battery...? :whistle: (have removed some of the text from the original posting. And it is not me, I hasten to add)
...The battery was a 14500 gray Ultrafire which had been working just fine for 10-11 charges. Until it decided to blow up. I would like to believe that the cheapy charger just decided to deliver too many volts at some point and the fault didn’t lay in the battery itself, but I really don’t know and never will.
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From my experience with this explosion, an ammo can might contain a 14500 explosion, but it might NOT contain the explosion from a much larger 18650.....Stick a stick of dynamite in an ammo can and let me know how well that “contains” the explosion.

The sound of the 14500 going off was like a stick of dynamite. Couldn’t hear anything for like an hour. I can only imagine the force of an explosion from a larger battery, although some quarter sized holes in the ammo can might vent enough of the explosion’s force to keep the can from also exploding. But without the holes ….. Not something I would risk. Just a potentially bigger bomb with more shrapnel.

I cannot stress enough that this was a “real” explosion, not some vent event.

....flakes of black :censored: EVERYWHERE.....We were mopping it up two rooms away. It basically took a whole day. It was also stuck all over the ceiling. The flakes were not dry and could not be vacuumed but had to be wiped off with wet towels. They were gooey and sticky. Yes, we wore respirators and rubber gloves for the cleanup. Could there still be toxic bits lurking around? Absolutely, but we did the best clean-up job humanly possible.

....The battery cartridge shot 30 feet across the room; shattered the coffee maker and then ricochetted into the living room, another 30 feet, rricochetted off another wall (DENTING it) and finally came to rest smoking behind a couch, where it had melted a section of the rug. No flames. I think the battery casing was just really hot. Remember that this battery casing is a pretty insignificant flimsy, light piece of metal when empty (which it was when it took off on its presumably near-supersonic tour of various rooms in my house). For it to do all this damage, it HAD to be going as fast as a bullet.

If my wife or I were in the kitchen and had been hit by that battery case, there is no doubt in my mind that it would have been similar to being shot by a bullet. If it hit me in the head, I would have been killed or really hurt.
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